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Old Feb 08, 2007, 04:40 PM // 16:40   #41
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It's a long shot, but 9 weapon mastery in another weapon might tip the balance in your favour. I'm thinkin a scythe, primarily because the build's defence is balanced between assassin and dervish attributes and the high crit will make scythe damage count where it's needed. Although, that way, you could potentially drop shadow arts altogether and concentrate your attributes, as way of perfection isn't that good with a scythe. That way, you could almost go for the unmodified malicious strike build, the only problem being that there is now no way to end his stances. but if you can block the majority of his attacks, I think it would be just about doable. It would require a fair bit of luck with the blocking and timing of your crits tho. But as for the actual build, try the Crippling Sweep>Malicious Strike chain I posted a couple of days ago. GL
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Old Feb 08, 2007, 04:41 PM // 16:41   #42
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failed that as well.. he heals too much and deals too much with his stance..
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Old Feb 09, 2007, 02:34 PM // 14:34   #43
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Yesterday i do Gate of Madness in NF with my friends and i take UR build Mistical. I has kill Shiro with my warior but yesterday mission was easier with assasin. When my friends take shrines (we want bonus) i take shiro with my hero Koss.But we didn't do the mission with bonus because when they take 3 shrine shiro hass only 1/5 health . They was angry and said: u kill him before we take all shrines. So we killed him without bonus shrines. This build is very good. GJ .
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Old Feb 09, 2007, 02:49 PM // 14:49   #44
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haha nice one
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Old Feb 09, 2007, 03:52 PM // 15:52   #45
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Yeah, i figured this'd be far more effective on NF Shiro too. If only we'd had a WotA sin with us for the 1st attempt of Gate of Madness last Sunday... Still, no use cryin over spilt milk, we got him on our 3rd attempt on Wednesday, but the Shiro tank... I won't name any names, but... W/Mo, a Hammer and...

[skill]Healing Breeze[/skill][skill]Mending[/skill][skill]Endure Pain[/skill]and[skill]Sprint[/skill]...

The worst bit is that the person in question is in my guild and genuinely thinks the following; The above skills are nigh essential for a Warrior, Hammers have the lowest damage overall of all the Warrior weapons and finally; One ego, the size of Jupiter makes him think that he's always right...

Anyway, back on topic; lets get back to basics on this build. Like I said last night, I don't think A/D is the right way to go about beating Shiro at all, given the evidence we have against it. Frankly, every avenue we've pursued has come up short, which is why I came up with the idea of somehow modifying this in order to be able to run a Spoil Victor A/N. Of course, I misread the skill description at the time, SpVi does not contribute to healing at all. (offtopic, but an idea for this just popped into my head - N/W, I might post it on the necro forums later if I can figure it out.) thus, we would need to spread attributes quite thinly - dropping dagger mastery down to 9 and shadow arts down as far as possible in order to increase blood as high as we can. The other thing we would need would be a decent cover hex for spoil victor. For this, the assassin has only one option that I see as viable: Siphon Speed.

At any rate, this is all thats set in stone at the moment:

[skill]Spoil Victor[/skill][skill]Critical Defenses[/skill][skill]Wild Strike[/skill][skill]Way Of Perfection[/skill]and[skill]Siphon Speed[/skill]

What it absolutely needs on top of that, is obviously a lead attack. otherwise, it's open for just about any skills, but those form the core functions of the concept.
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Old Feb 09, 2007, 04:10 PM // 16:10   #46
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You want a Cover Hex? Use Parasitic Bond.... Its THE Necro Cover-Hex... lasts ages... and heals when it ends. Even at 0 Curses its fairly useful.

I haven't solo-beat Shiro... but I SV A/N doubled him down alongside a secondary Mesmer with Empathy. He never even got to use his Meditation once! (Which is just as well, as SV / Empathy won't do anything during that time)... I'd recommend putting Blinding Powder on the end of the dagger combo too... Shiro will keep attacking, doing damage to himself... but won't land any hits and thus can't damage in return. I wasn't bothering with Critical Strikes so I took Shroud of Distress instead of Critical Defenses as I recall (plus since it only works below 50% health, it ensures that SV does its work for longer).
Not sure what other skills got splurged into the mix now I think about it.... but I'm sure Price of Failure wouldn't go amiss in all that.
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Old Feb 09, 2007, 04:17 PM // 16:17   #47
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DB has a recharge of 2 seconds why use Morbius Strike, plus unsuspecting strike and wild blow has a 4 sec recharge.

Mistical Miss once again Excellent build!! that gives Assassin a new light of hope in solo farming not involving SF and teleporting back to a safe point.
Because you can keep chaining: MS DB MS DB MS DB for heaploads of damage?
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Old Feb 09, 2007, 04:21 PM // 16:21   #48
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So how do you keep chaining MS DB MS DB if Critical Defenses goes down / WoP isn't running effectively and you die? Or how about if you run out of energy? As far as I'm aware neither of those is more likely to trigger a critical hit than any normal skill.
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Old Feb 09, 2007, 04:40 PM // 16:40   #49
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I'd recommend putting Blinding Powder on the end of the dagger combo too... Shiro will keep attacking, doing damage to himself... but won't land any hits and thus can't damage in return. I wasn't bothering with Critical Strikes so I took Shroud of Distress instead of Critical Defenses as I recall (plus since it only works below 50% health, it ensures that SV does its work for longer).
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I think that blind isn't worked on Shiro and he blind u if u use it. He cannot be knocked and blinded. He cause on you blind if u try blind him.
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Old Feb 09, 2007, 05:06 PM // 17:06   #50
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Because you can keep chaining: MS DB MS DB MS DB for heaploads of damage?
Oh , I didn't see moebius has only 2 secs recharge as well..

Problem point: its an elite.. and u need way of the assassin to keep ur Critical defenses up, and it adds but little dmg, theres only one attack less in ur chain then. I don't think it outweighs the risks (you get a lot less health without Way of the Assassin)... though its most certainly more useful in pvp where there are less enemies focusing on u.

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Old Feb 10, 2007, 07:39 AM // 07:39   #51
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well for the heck of it i used this build in the Deep this weekend.. only problem is getting past the two rits in the first chamber. i can kill 1 but the spirits will rez him again.

so if your lucky to have a friend or like to try and dual run it i'm sure it will be able to clear out the first area or so. i'll try and post a screen shot later.



First two guys down.... now the next two RT.



The two Rt down.. now the Kanaxai left....



hum... going to need more workk on this...

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Old Feb 10, 2007, 08:17 AM // 08:17   #52
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U need knockdown for the Kanaxai right?
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Old Feb 10, 2007, 08:28 AM // 08:28   #53
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for safe make a trio assa in the deep. i'll be tomorow so maybe we can go to the deep.
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Old Feb 26, 2007, 04:22 AM // 04:22   #54
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Hmmm using a scythe variant.....and with mystic regen.....maybe just maybe this build could solo the FoW cave and beach
With the 75% block and regen from mystic regen, which should negate the poisen, then all the WoP heals with the huge scythe attacks......ill try this in FoW tommorow.....i think this can work........
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Old Feb 26, 2007, 07:17 AM // 07:17   #55
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Don't forget bringing the 50% blocking enchantment from the earth prayers line !
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